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I have actually discussed stains on clothes with my therapist. I'm not joking. Wow. I'm like, I have boy problems. You have stains like, it sounds absurd, but it's like so much goes into you know, just being a human and I was like telling her I can't I can't deal with these stains and she's like, is this something you can let go? I tell myself this. I tell myself this I have to let this go Hello, Tiffany how are you? I was gonna say better than last week. But the thing is, we're recording both of these at the same day. So we're still sick. It's like, yeah, it's always hard. It's like, awkward. Do we pretend like the bachelor that a week has passed when it's only been? Four minutes? Yeah. Two minutes. Yeah. Yeah, we're still sick. So our voices are still going to be interesting. Episode Seven is going to be off the chain for for health. Yeah, but welcome to greening up my act. Yes. Welcome. This is the podcast where two marketing writers take you through green product marketing and debunk anything that's full of green Hui grain. We like to call out these products that are really just using fluff words that mean legitimately nothing. So yeah, our goal is to find eco friendly, sustainable practices and products for your home that are legitimately eco friendly and sustainable work like they're supposed to. They're easy, and they're easy and they won't. They're cost efficient. Yes. They don't cost $45 For a bottle of detergent. Or we keep shitting all over essential oils but a $45.02 ounce bottle of essential oils right like don't do it. I did okay, I because I'm sick. I will say I did put some peppermint oil and lemongrass in my bath the other night. Ooh, that sounds lovely. It was It smelled nice. Did it help? It's hard to say yeah, I actually peppermint oil one of my friends when I was had morning sickness. One of my friends recommended using it to stave off nausea just like literally keeping a bottle and smelling it. Oh, did it well, it did kind of work it did it helped. Like distracts you. Yeah, I think it was probably psychosomatic but yeah, still, I mean, I know peppermint. Like menthol is really good at actually like, I've been eating like menthol cough drops and you really do like clear your nose up. Oh, totally. Yeah. So like there's something in peppermint is known to relax the muscles in your esophagus. So like peppermint tea does do things to you. That sounds great. Yeah, I don't know if it in my bath if it did much. Yeah. Yeah. So today, we're going to be talking about bleach and ways to get stains out of clothes. So we're gonna be exploring green bleach and sun bleaching, which is a really exciting, free method of bleach. And it's honestly the coolest thing ever. So I was gonna say this is really good timing. And it would actually probably always be good timing, and talking about how to get stains out and bleach and whatnot, because they are a big part of my day having a toddler. I have actually discussed stains on clothes with my therapist. I'm not joking. Wow. I'm like, I have boy problems. You have stains. Like, it sounds absurd. But it's like so much goes into you know, just being a human. And I was like, telling her I can't I can't deal with these stains. And she's like, is this something you can let go? I tell myself this. I tell myself this. I have to let this go. It's okay if she has an avocado stain because God, avocados, nobody tells you but they are so messy. They stain like crazy. Oh, yeah, they are. Yes. I didn't know that. But yeah, it's she's avocado all over every piece of clothing pretty much. But hey, she likes avocado. So I can't complain. I guess. You know what? Yeah, she's gonna be a really good hippie when she grows up. Just get green colored clothes and call it oh my god. Genius. Why didn't I think that? Just all Kareem, why didn't your therapist stick to that? I think you shouldn't pay her as much. Yeah, so isn't that wild that i Brother in therapy? Isn't it makes sense? Yeah. So before we dive into it, dive into our green bleach investigation. I want to cite my sources. So we looked at chemical safety facts.org And the EPA for some information about chlorine. bleach, and then you'll hear about dioxins later and how they're like produced by the manufacturing of chlorine bleach and like industrial use of chlorine bleach. And they're not great. So I used EPA I used acs.org. Now, I'm realizing I don't know what that stands for a sea star or tila. We have our computers right in front of us, right? American Chemical Society. Probably that's what I thought. But why won't it tell me? Yes, you're correct. All right. Can we cut that dumb part? Yes, we'll see. Got Stephen cut it. So yeah, the American Chemical Society that was dioxins. Also NIH on dioxins. And then I got into Yeah, I use the Environmental Working Group, which rates different household products based on their eco friendliness and health factors. And so I looked into bleach with them. Oh, and The Guardian also had a really useful article about chlorine bleach. Okay, so then I looked into oxygen bleach using the spruce live simply dot m e.me. I guess she has a homemade oxy clean laundry booster. And then when I got into Sun bleaching, I use apartment therapy and old and interesting.com Oh, I wish that was my URL. I know, right? It's so great. I'm old and interesting. That was just your writer, website, old people. Like I don't get it. I think it's more like a history website. But yeah, I think it could work very well. You should buy their URL from them. Yeah, it's mine now. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay, cool. So let's get into it. Let's start with chlorine bleach. Okay, this is so for the record. I use it in my shower. Your shower, like to clean your shower. Yeah, because I get mildew and it's the only thing that gets rid of the little green spots. All right. You're gonna find out if that's okay. Okay. Like is his cancer? I think you're okay, but we're gonna kind of we'll talk through it. Yeah, because I use chlorine chlorine bleach on my sheets, just because I love the way it smells. Oh, really? I do like a fresh bleached. Freshly bleach sheet. That's so hard to Sally is so nice for me. It just feels so clean. Okay, okay, clean. Because the smell of bleach is like the one thing I just cannot. Yeah, the smell of straight up bleach is horrible. But when it's diluted in your sheets, it's just like, subtle. And it just smells like fresh and clean. I'm like I'm thinking I'm imagining like what a hotel smells like. Yeah, have an indoor pool. Well, it's not that. You know, that kind of like swimming in your bed? No, it's subtle. It's I love it. So it's hard for me. This is a hard, hard episode. Oh, but chlorine bleach was a little tough to research actually. Because it seems like it's either loved or hated. And there's, like a lot of places give very little behind the scenes details of why it's bad or why it's okay. For example, chemical safety facts.org lists out like, why it's so good because guess what, it kills cholera and typhoid and water? Well, that's not bad. That's a good thing. Right? There's a reason yeah, we do that in swimming pools. Yeah, yes. And then a lot of people just say like, oh, it's bad for the environment, sort of blanket statement, and but they don't specify why. So it's very hard. It was really hard for me to figure out like, Okay, what, why? And then the EPA says the hazards associated with sodium and calcium hypochlorite, which are in chlorine bleach are relatively small. So this was an old ass document, though, that I found from the EPA. So I don't know. I don't know. We'll link it. You can look at it, but it seemed like yeah, it was just hard for me to be like, miss this current. Yeah. So a little bit about chlorine bleach from chemical safety. facts.org. Chlorine bleach is formed by mixing water with chlorine based compound, sodium hypochlorite. Okay. And all of that jumble of words seems to break down in water to become chloride ions. Okay. chemistry lesson. Yeah. I'm trying my favorite. Yeah. But Organa Oh, chloride chemicals, which is the chemical family that bleach is part of can be harmful when you make it so to produce it. And then when used in other production processes, like when you're bleaching paper, okay, that makes sense. Yeah, like, it seems like big industrial processes that use chlorine bleach. have proven like are proven to be not great for the environment. Okay. I mean, I've Yeah, I've heard that. It's why you don't want bleached tampons and you'll want bleached paper and you don't want yeah, yes, or even bleached flour. I find that kind of weird, but I know this obsession with things being pearly white, you know, exactly my sheets, for example, tip sheets, whether or not because I have a dog, but whatever. Okay. So according to the American Chemical Society, the reason that it's harmful during the industrial process is that the addition of chlorine to an organic rich waste stream, which basically just means, like a stream outside, like a normal river or whatever, leads to the formation of hazardous byproducts such as dioxins. Oh, okay, what's the dioxin? Yeah, so let me tell ya. Like, it sounds like a bad guy from the Ninja Turtles, but I don't know. I wish because it wouldn't be real. But no, dioxins are PERS. They're persistent organic pollutants or pops. But not the fun kind of fun pops. And they are highly toxic. They are ubiquitous. These are, quote unquote, like a quote, ubiquitous in the Great Lakes. Oh, and they come into contact with humans. So we eat them. We basically if we eat fish, or the EPA says we ingest them through lots of kinds of meat or fatty tissue. I think it was, oh, sorry, I didn't quote this. But there's a journal chemists sphere study published in the journal chemists sphere that said the dioxins are ubiquitous in the Great Lakes. And then the EPA is saying like, actually a lot of meats, you're ingesting them. These dioxins? So the idea of getting these toxins to zero is impractical, because they are permanent. Wow. Wait, so what do they do to you? God, dang, I don't know. We'll just gonna, I'm just gonna Google with your please do it right? Because I'm not sure I said so productive and developmental problems, damage the immune system interfere with hormones and cause cancer. There's okay. This article is from the who? Okay. And they say due to the omnipresence of dioxins, all people have background exposure, which is not expected to affect human health. They don't know. Okay. Okay. So see, that's where it's confusing. And again, these dioxins seem like all the research that I found, they seem like they come from industrial processes, not your home. So right, this is the complicated thing. Okay. So they're not going to go away. Whether or not they're going to harm us is unclear. Right? They're not like good for the environment, I'm assuming no, because if it can cause reproductive issues in us, yes. And cancer, I mean, exactly. And the bunnies and the squirrels are all in trouble, too. Yeah. Okay. So that's what I'm saying. Like, it's unclear if your household bleach matters very much. But according to the Guardian, by buying it, you're helping to prop up the whole organic chlorine industry. Oh, and I kind of feel like, I have trouble with that. Because, yes, but it's really hard to say that, like, my one bottle of bleach is going to prop up the entire industry, right? I mean, that's, that's the issue. That's, again, it's a thing that we come back to all the time is trying to make the individual effort for, like, recycling coke bottles, takes the effort off of coke to do more sustainable practices, right. They're the huge company with the corporation with money. They should, you know, Clorox should be doing things to make the environment sustainable. But then again, boycotting on a large amount can have an effect. So there is, you know, individuals and groups can make an effect. But yeah, that really putting it down to you're buying a bottle of Clorox doesn't not, that's not going to solve the problem. It doesn't give you the moral obligation that it gives to the company. Right? Cleaner process, especially. Yeah, it's it's really hard because it's like I do believe in individual choices, because I think it should be both. Yeah, but at the same time when the harm is only coming from propping up the industry as a whole. It's like, I don't know, I just find like, I'm not totally convinced. Yeah, I get it. But I don't think that's enough to convince me right now. Yeah, my one bottle I buy every two years. Yeah, because I don't buy it very often. I don't really use it that much, because I'm afraid to stain the shit out of my belly bleach on polka dot shirt. And you're right like it is most effective at killing it. We'll get into This but it's most effective at sanitizing. So that's the hard thing, however, okay, on the other hand, the EW G. So the Environmental Working Group that rates all of these products rates, Clorox bleach and F. Okay, so they say it's rated an F because of acute aquatic toxicity concerns for a developmental endocrine reproductive effects, like you mentioned to cancer, lack of bio degradation, and more. So my confusion I still don't have the answer is like some people say, oh, oh, chlorine bleach just breaks down into water. It just breaks down goes away. But then the EW G are saying that it doesn't biodegrade and I don't know if that's because dioxins are what but interesting. Well, isn't our water chlorinated on some level? Oh, totally. My apartment that we had before we bought this house. It tasted like a drinking pool. Yeah, a drink. Yeah, yeah. Also, drinking you know, the bulls ego like I know it says no, but it tasted like a swimming pool and smelled like it too. And 100% If you have city water, I was just talking to we had our water guy come out the other day. And he was saying like, yes, absolutely use bleach to kill. Like I said typhoid. Right, which cholera, cholera, like all these things that aren't really around anymore in light heart because the water is safe. So yeah. Yeah, it's hard. Right? So and then none of the I've talked about Safer Choice labels from which is the EPA labels products that are safer, quote, unquote, and chlorine bleach doesn't know chlorine bleach has on but okay, then oxygen bleach, which is green bleach does? Not all of it, but a lot of it. Oh, so dish, what is the screen bleach of what you speak? Well, okay, real quick. Another reason you might not want regular bleach or houses if you mix it with ammonia, which I never use ammonia, I think feel like that was my grandmother's cleaning tool, but I'm sure there are good uses for it. I don't know. Windex. Yeah. Is that is that in Windows? Yeah. So that never mix your Clorox with your Windex. Oh boy. No idea that that yeah, ammonia in it. Yeah, I always know that. That's what I was gonna say like, Don't mix the two. But then I'm over here like, oh, no, put a day between them. I always put a day between them. Okay, that's really helpful. And hopefully your listeners are helped by that too. Okay. So you know, if you don't want to just if you don't want to think about that, then maybe just avoid it. And the cost of chlorine bleach is much cheaper. Let me make sure I'm right about that. Yes. Okay. It's about half the price that the ones that I looked up are about half the price. So it costs the one I found at Target is for 19 for a 43 ounce bottle or $1.67 per pound. I'm using pounds just to make my life easier so I can compare it to oxygen. Got it, okay. So now on to oxygen Leach. All it is is which isn't really helpful because it's chemistry again, but sodium percarbonate, which is a mixture of hydrogen peroxide and washing soda when you break it down. So chemically, hydrogen peroxide and washing soda are what oxygen bleach are. Oh, yeah. Isn't it interesting? And instead of using whatever the hell chlorine bleach does to get stains out, it uses oxygen bubbles. Oh, isn't it weird? So that's why it's called oxygen bleach. Yeah, and most oxygen bleach is aerated well by the Environmental Working Group, except for one by Oxy clean, but that's more of a health concern for the colors and the additives that were used. Yeah, just to have Why does everything have to be blue? I don't know. I don't know. But it's funny because I was like, Is oxy clean? Because that's the one I know was like, is that legit, but it turns out it's actually for the most part pretty good. Oh, okay. Yeah, I found that kind of interesting. So according to the spruce, which I love this Bruce, but they tell you how to use oxygen, oxygen bleach, and you have to soak the fabric. Usually to get stains out because oxygen bleach works more slowly. Okay, so it's not going to be your like, powerful Dane. Yes. So you're gonna have to do a little bit more work for it to for it to actually get stains out. Okay. And the other big thing is that like I mentioned the spruce. Sorry, the spruce says that green bleach doesn't disinfect bacteria or viruses. Oh, even though some of them claim to so some of them say on on their packaging that they do but I I kind of believe this proves that they don't but I honestly I'm just using the spruce at is a guidepost area yeah as my source. So if you have a sickness, you'll either want to use a laundry sanitizer or chlorine bleach. Okay. Yeah, I haven't looked into laundry sanitizers, but I am considering getting one. I don't know anything about them. But so that's I feel like that's important to know. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Because like, it's not like you're gonna spray down your podcasting microphone and yeah, destroy whatever it is. We've been passing back and forth through the airwaves. Exactly. I'm just kidding. Everyone. We know germs don't work that way. Right. So we're the other option, which is free. You can Sun bleach it. And that is sanitize sanitizer. We'll get into that. Let's Yeah, I want to know about that. I know. We'll get into it at the end. Hold your horses. So there's a homemade version of oxygen bleach is this comes from live simply.me. And I think it's like a really cool idea. It's like, you basically take washing soda, which we had talked about last week, but you find washing soda in? Not last week, two weeks ago. Yeah. In our laundry Epson, you find Washington soda in like your grocery store or your hardware store. And it's in a big yellow box made by Armand Hammer. And so you take washing soda, one half cup of washing soda and one half cup of hydrogen peroxide, just the stuff you get from like, your pharmacy, right to clean out your sore gums. Is that what you do? I don't Yeah. My mommy sees it on canker sores. just swish it around your mouth and clean. Horrible, but don't swallow it. You swish Right, right, right. Yeah. So throw both those things in, I think it says it says will link to the DIY thing if you want to. So you can like make your own, which is a cool idea. But then I was like, wait, because I tried this actually, like a year ago when I first was researching this. And I kind of figured out that it isn't actually cost effective to use hydrogen peroxide because you're using half a cup. Yeah, that's like a half a bottle? Well, it's actually let me do the math, an eighth of a bottle, okay, but I did the math. And it's like, about the same price as just getting oxy clean. So because it's like, a 32 ounce bottle cost $1 of hydrogen peroxide, but that only does eight loads. And so you're having to like load up on all these bottles. And that's why I stopped using it because I was like, Yeah, this isn't really worth it. I have plastic bottles. It's like you're exactly. Contributing to yeah, yes. So I'm not totally convinced that that's really worth it. But you can try it if you want. So green bleach one caveat. caveat. It definitely removes color. Oh, okay. Yeah, I didn't realize this. But the one that I got, I soaked my former reusable sponges, which you're talking about next week? Yeah, I soaked them overnight, and they were green, and then they became yellow. So it's so bad. Yeah, it was your mother in law comes and is like, oh my god, your son Sanchez. How dare you. Luckily, I have a very amazing mother in law who would never judge me for my specialist. So just FYI, you have to be a little bit conscious of where you're, when you're putting it in your cycle where you're putting it that kind of thing. But it is a little bit more expensive, because so chlorine bleach costs about $1, about $1 and a half $1.67 per pound. This is a little bit less than $3 per pound, if you're going the OxiClean route, okay? Or, and we're going to link to the good one, all linked to the OxiClean like as well rated and everything. So if you want to go that route, but then it can go up to $13 per pound for the fancy Charlie's soap. So that's a brand that I found, and it's about $13 per pound, which is a heck of a lot more. Yeah. So I would recommend not going that route because I don't really think the price is worth it for hydrogen peroxide, right. Yeah. Well, and it's only for laundry, right? You can't use it on your shower. Actually oxygen bleach. You can you can use it for lots of things. You could try that. Try that on your shower. Yeah, maybe I should. I don't know if it works on mold. But I would try. I mean, I'm guessing that's what the shower issue is because they just get like mildewed or whatever. Yeah, it's just old caulking that gets Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, try it because I know a lot of people use it for cleaning. Okay. One thing I didn't realize either is it liquid bleach so chlorine, bleach, oxy bleach, whatever, whatever kind of its liquid form. It only lasts six months. Okay, which I've definitely had mine longer and I still use it. But powdered bleach lasts up to two years. So if you're going that route of like, you don't use it that often. Like I don't green bleach might be more cost effective because of that. Got it. So did it work is the question. Yes. So I tested it. Did you test it? No, I don't bleach. I don't bleach my clothes. Yeah, I don't either. So I tried it for stain removal on a What the hell happened? Oh god. This is actually the perfect week for it because, Charlie, my daughter was trying to grab bubbles that We're open. She's too. And so I went to grab the bubbles and then she also kicked my entire venti Starbucks coffee over onto the rug. So we had a lot of coffee stained rags, needless to say, so I was like, Oh, the perfect opportunity, even though I'm like crying about my coffee being gone, but perfect opportunity to try out this green bleach to get the coffee out. So I looked it up and tried to figure out where the hell I'm supposed to put this bleach into my because I have a top loading machine and it depends blah, blah, blah. So I like put it in the regular powder thingy, and then put it on soak, which is what it said to do. I think it was the spruce that told me how to do this because you're supposed to soak it, but I have no idea if the actual green bleach was in the laundry while it was soaking, right? Because I don't have a pre soak little dispenser thing. So unclear, but it only kind of worked. Okay, so I feel like this experiment can't really tell you whether or not I think if I had just soaked in, I should have just soaked it in like a bucket. But yeah, I was being lazy. So I think it can work. It's just this time, it only kind of worked. And luckily I didn't really care about the rags. But yeah, I mean, that's what you're supposed to test on. Right? Right. This isn't actually not a rag. It was a kitchen towel, but I guess I don't care if it's a rag now. You've been demoted. Yeah, so I'm not sure. To be honest. But I do think it's worth kind of experimenting with so I'm gonna keep using it. Okay. I mean, yeah, give it a whirl. Yeah, so I think try it on your shower. I'm really curious. Yeah, I'll get someone dry it. I know people use it for cleaning. And that's the other nice thing about this type of thing. I mean, you can use chlorine bleach for cleaning too, but it's so gross. It's like stinks. Yeah, just such a heavy smell gives me a headache. It's never a good sign. Yeah, exactly. All right now sunbleached you want to hear with sun biting? Do it makes me feel like I'm going to the beach, right? Who's gonna go boots and bleach your skin. So this is a real quick, just final thing. But it works best in summer, obviously. But Sun bleaching is using the sun to get stains out of your clothes. Okay, that's all it is. So back when I was doing this research, my daughter was wearing cloth diapers. I have since given up on this. My mother same thing. She's like, I just can't. Yeah, no comment. But so even after they're washed, they get pretty stained Go figure. And what I did when I was experimenting with some bleaching because I was like, I don't believe that this is actually going to work. But what I did was I washed it and while it was still wet. Before it dried, I put it out in the sun. So it was a very sunny day, it was probably in the summer, complete full sun for probably four plus hours. And there was zero stain left. Wow. Can you believe that? I mean, okay, given what it has done to my couch cushions on my outside. Exactly. Yes, I can. But I wouldn't expect it to be that quick. I know. So does the making it wet make it like more effective? I think so. And I think it may have been because it's hard to say but I do think that the wetness helps. And I know that if you dry clothes, the stains are more likely to set so I don't I'm sure that it was like stain for multiple weeks. But I think maybe the stain hadn't fully SAT or something. But that's not true. Because it was it was in there. So I don't know if it's like makes it I don't know why honestly. But I do know I did read that it should be wet because that makes it more effective. But you can also add half a cup of lemon juice to your laundry. Yes, citrus for some reason. Yeah. If you want to put blonde streaks and your hair too they exactly the back in the day. That was all the rage. Gross. No. But yeah, you can add lemon juice or just have a spray bottle of lemon juice and just spray it directly on to the clothes and it helps so I suppose to help get the stains out. So if they're really bad sound interesting. Yeah, so that was really cool. We have a whole show on what lemons can do. Seriously though, for real, but then I tried to send bleach blood because my okay. My my dog I had mentioned that she gets our sheets disgusting because she Oh Lord, just like a human has a period. She is oh, she's not fixed. She is twice. Oh, yeah, she just keeps going. She's like, my body's not giving up. I don't know what it was they botched the spade job. We did it again. They cut her open. And it's still she's still like once every six months has a period so oh my gosh. Yeah. If anybody else is dealing with this Jesus to help me it's That's fine, but the blood did not come out at all. Oh, really? No, not at all. So it must depend on the thing that you're trying to get out. So baby poop Yeah, baby poop yes dog blood no for those times when you need dog blood out Yeah, I did so I mean this is basically the same idea as like hanging your laundry out to dry which my aunt does this with pretty much all I think all of her clothes I don't think she ever uses and our towels and everything maybe in the winter, obviously. But you know, it's a years old tradition that says whites get whiter. And I believe it. I like believe in the sun. The power of the sun. Well, and it it is antibacterial. Yes, it is. So that's really exciting. So anything smelly? Yeah, like anything that smells bad. The sun will take care of it. My dog bed. I throw it outside yesterday and just let it Yeah, it's great. That's why the winters so smelly. Thanks. But I want to get his clothesline I don't know if I actually will but I want to I mean, I could like throw it over a bush. I use my I use my deck. Just the railing but yeah. Then you just kind of like what's on the railing? Yeah, bird poop for sure. Yeah. And something interesting. I found this was from old an interesting.com our new friend. So in the 1800s there was a profession called a white stir, a flight stir, stir and they just I think they just use the sun to get your clothes and your sheets and whatnot really, really white. Do they have like a special deal with the sun? Probably like hey, Saul come over here. Or sign his name Sol that's why we call it solar. Sun Mr. Gold? It's yeah. Please shut down on me because I need to make some moolah. Right. I need to whiten things. Yeah. Wow. So and then obviously, it's free except for your time, right? It can take several times and several hours to get out really bad stains. And it won't work at all for blood, but and probably other things like cherry juice. maybe who knows. What about avocado? I don't know. I should try it that frickin avocado. I have a feeling it won't just because avocado is my nemesis. But it's hard to say. What if it doesn't you can go back to a therapist and be like, I found a solution. Right? Oh my god. I solved all my problems with the sun. Alright, so each episode, we rate each of these products or whatever we're talking about from one to five granolas because the crunchy or the better, because obviously you'd want crunchy granola. So for green bleach, I'm reading it a for crunchy. So it's pretty good. Like I think it's worth it. Because especially because it's unclear to me if home consumption even creates dioxins. Yeah. And then I but I would say like there's enough evidence that chlorine bleach ain't great for water. Yeah, right. If anybody knows anything more, because I really had a hard time with this one. The research is just so split on this. Yeah. But if you're going to use green bleach, find a cheap option or use hydrogen peroxide because what it's made of ain't worth 15 bucks a pound or whatever the whole light was trying to sell for. Right. So and then my reading for Sun bleaching is break your tooth off. Because it is so crunchy. You are going to be Toothless. It's so good. And it's so so free. I love it. With that said what are we talking about next week? Well, we'll be taking you into the wonderful world of reusable sponges which you already started on slightly well my my job of destroying my sponges but yeah well not destroying just different coloring. Well yeah. Dyeing sadly tie dyeing. Yeah. Yeah, awesome. Thank you. This was I learned a lot. You're well we'll try. I should some bleach my shower. See what happened? On bleach. Take the roof off. That would be ideal. Those people who have outdoor showers know what's up. Exactly. No mildew There. Tell you what, yeah, for real. Unless you're in like a jungle and then you probably don't have much time. Yeah. Well, please, please subscribe, subscribe to our podcast. Yes, hit the subscribe button or the Follow button wherever you listen to your podcast so you can get notified. And you can also this is what I do with podcasts that I love. I have them automatically download onto my phone. So when driving, I don't have to worry about downloading and using my data. So they're just already there. And I can just listen to them as I go. Perfect. Yeah. We will include all of our sources in the show notes and let us know if you have any questions. Awesome. Thanks, Tim. Thanks, God. Talk to you next week. Okay, bye.